Vox dm to kaza
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Vox dm to kaza
Feb 20
I spent hours last night and today communicating with that person & I had to block her today bc she INSISTS that I started CTL
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and she refuses to correct her blog post. I don't want my photo & false info on that post - it's inflammatory and she hasn't checked her
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facts. who knows what else isn't true. she isn't a journalist, which is fine. people make mistakes. she insists that i'm calling her a liar
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which I am NOT. I said i'm sure it was an honest mistake. i feel terrible that bad things happened to her, but that doesn't mean everyone is
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out to get her or there is a conspiracy behind everything. she also keeps repeating entirely irrational & erroneous assumptions she's making
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especially given what was done to her, she should be eager to correct any untrue thing she's posted, but she refuses to do so.
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it's ridiculous. she was NOT civil to me. i went out of my way to be civil and patient with her desire her irrational theories & accusations
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She also refuses to tell me who gave her the wrong info bc she says she "won't reveal her sources" like she's some kind of journalist
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which she isn't. a real journalist would have contacted me to ask me if it was true before she posted, and I would told her it wasn't.
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so she refuses to tell me who gave her this wrong info. then she says that I vouch for my "supporters, friends and confidants" I have no
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idea who she's talking about. i have thousands of followers. I don't even follow them all back. i don't and can't know them all.
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she conflates a follower on twitter with "trusted friends" and holds me accountable for something someone told her when she won't tell me
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who told her this totally untrue thing. i don't want my photo or untrue info about me on her blog or any blog.
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a reasonable person would simply remove all mention of me and my photo but she refuses to do so. and she has hinted that she will update her
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post with more info from our conversation. this makes me nervous bc I was warned to not engage w her at all bc I was told she is a liar
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and will twist things to fit her own narrative. I like to give people the benefit o the doubt and it appears that I have made a mistake in
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discussing anything with her. i'm mad at myself bc I don't have the energy for this. i'm recovering from major surgery and have limited
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energy anyway. she is so irrational in her DMs to me that I'm really quite nervous about what she's going to do. she thinks i'm her enemy
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bc i refuse to hate all the people she wants me to hate. this is a serious problem, and I"m going to tell Zach Green he needs to be careful
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about who he lets in. there should be behavioral standards. people who harass others or write untrue things about others should be kicked
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out. it doesn't matter that i am credited with a positive thing; it's simply untrue. this is about integrity. i'm not comfortable with it.
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Oh dear, a couple of quick things, she is not in UB so Zach has nothing to do with any of it.
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Not an excuse but she found out her mom was at the end at the exact same time this conversation got started. Really bad timing.
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that's fine. then i'm mistaken about any affiliation she has with UB. I didn't think Zach had anything to do with it other than if she was
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in it and behaving this way, then he should know about it.
Feb 20
Debbie Caplan joined Osborne and Expat and was a real terror last summer, we thought she was done but Exbat dragged her back in.
Feb 20
I can relate. When my father was dying in 2012, someone posted a libelous blog post about me calling me a racist. i told her this.
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None of that has anything to do with you though, I'll see what I can do.
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I cannot stand expat and osbourne and many she lists on the bottom of her blog and i told her that also.
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and i also told her that there are people she listed that i don't have a problem with. Caplan is someone i've never had a problem with .
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i also said that i'm not going to just turn on or dislike or hate people bc she does & that I won't unfollow or block someone w/o proof
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I know that - It is why I stepped in.
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of something they did that I object to. honestly, this sdzzz person has not behaved in any way that I would take her side on anything.
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i really appreciate you stepping in. she is not a rational person. she just isn't. i had to repeat the basics about 6x each.
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I follow a lot of people who don't like each other. That is your own business.
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i didn't get enough sleep last night bc of this and now i'm feeling sick. this is what i hate about twitter. normally i would ignore a
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person whom i thought was unhinged, but i wanted to reason with her and be civil and show her it's possible. it didn't work. she wants to
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believe there is some larger conspiracy here and there just isn't. i have a massive headache and feel like vomiting.
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how can she have gone through what she did and not realize that she's now harassing me and treating me badly by refusing to remove all
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mention of me? it would taken her less than a minute to simply remove my photo and what she wrote about me. nothing about me belongs on
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that post. i have wordpress. i know how it works. i'm going to report her to wordless too. not sure if that will help.
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if you want me to email u the entire DM conversation from today, i'd be more than happy to do that. i have nothing to hide. i tried my best
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if you can reason with her, i'd appreciate it. she insists on holding me accountable for whoever gave her wrong info, which is insane.
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she keeps saying over and over again that my trusted friends and confidants and people I vouch for can't be trusted or that i'm calling her
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Please don't let it bother you this much. I will have to go see what the changes she made were and find out what is going on.
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or them liars. i've told her repeatedly that wrong info gets around. it's called a rumor. responsible people correct errors when they're
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brought to their attention.
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she also kept saying I was bullying her into to making changes immediately which isn't true. but it's clear that she was in no rush to just
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delete the wrong info and my photo. i get it. her mother's dying. all she had to say was that she'd get to it when she could
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but she has NO intention of doing that. she said she has to do more research and write a longer post including things i've said in my tweets
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last night and today. i don't trust her. i was warned that she would do this, and now it's happening. i was told that she would take my
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tweets and use only some of them to paint a picture that fits her false narrative. it's too late. i'm already sick over this.
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i was warned to not engage with her and I did and i wasted hours of time and energy i don't have. i feel like i'm going to puke. i'm crying
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she isn't rational or reasonable. something is very wrong with her.
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i've been badly harassed also - not doxed like she was - but in real life in workplaces & also on twitter by shoq and many others.
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that's why i've tweeted and written so much about harassment. it makes me sick to my stomach to see people who have been harassed to then
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go harass others as though it's okay somehow. she is blind to this and it makes me sick.
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I know you were harassed, and I watched as Goldie was convinced.
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when I first tweeted Goldie abt Shoq, she blocked me and tweeted horrible shit about me, not knowing a thing about me. she was blindly loyal
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I think too much misunderstanding and bad timing is going on, I have a little time now - I 'll see what it going on and get back to you.
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SDzzz is demanding blind loyalty from me. she wants me to hate all those she hates; it's ridiculous. there are so many levels of fucked up
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-ness to this SDzzz thing. thank you. i appreciate it. yes there is a lot of misunderstanding, bc she REFUSES to understand anything.
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SHE WANTS TO BELIEVE HER FANTASIES OF conspiracy. she prefers those to what is true.
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Do you know if there is any documentation about the Shoq harassing you?
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not sure what you mean by documentation. i don't know how to do screen shots so i have nothing.
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I have tried to tell folks that they missed rounds 1 and 2 with shoq's crew, I will find a few examples.
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Do you want to take Screenshots?, depends what device you are using to twitter.
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i don't have anything i need shots of right now. i use a macbook air. i'm not a tech genius.
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i don't want you to have to go and find examples. it should be enough for someone she'll listen to - to simply say to her that:
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I'm not calling her a liar. she just made a mistake and put something inaccurate on her blog. the right thing to do would be to remove my
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photo and all mention of me from her blog. she doesn't even need to post a correction. just remove all traces of me PLEASE.
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and beyond that - she needs to let go of these crazy theories she has. nobody is asking me to have her to do this. nobody is putting me up
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to it. it's just ME being really uncomfortable being credited with CTL bc it's not true. what she wrote about me is very flattering, but
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it's false. i'm sorry she got bad info from someone, but that's not my fault and for her to keep blaming me for that is fucking insane
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she takes zero responsibility for her failure to simply check in with me and ask me. she could have done so with one tweet. I could have
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replied with one tweet. she doesn't' get to pretend she's a journalist protecting her sources when she doesn't even understand what "proof"
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She thinks someone put you up to this?
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is. she actually said that if she has to delete the thing about me on her blog that I should ask myself how i'd feel if someone disagreed w
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what I wrote on my blog and was told to delete it. she doesn't seem to get it that i haven't written anything false about anyone on my blog
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but that if I ever did, I'd delete or correct it immediately. yes. she thinks Eileen or someone put me up to this. she's fucking crazy.
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she is FULL of conspiracy theories on this. she mentioned names that I have no idea who they are. if you give me your email address, I can
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send you her DMS to me today. she went on and on in caps about how she doesn't support Bill Talley and pedophiles. I never said she did.
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I just want my photo and all mention of me OFF of her post and blog.
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i'm sorry, but she is mentally ill. she is.
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Well please don't share these thoughts with her, she'll not be inclined to think it through. Exbat and Osborne started in about tally
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I did tell her she was begin irrational and unreasonable after hours of trying to reason with her and getting nowhere.
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I did not tell her I think she's mentally ill. no good will come of that.
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a couple of days ago and deuce told exbat he can't wait for talley to be released because it would fun to play with that.
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i'm pretty sure osbourne one wrote a nasty post about me also. she claims to do research but doesn't. then she tells me i don't know enuf
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about what has gone on. I don't need to know her whole story. all i need is for her to remove my photo & all mention of me on her post.
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and for 11 months they have been called paid trolls who support a pedophile, they are quite sensitive - I'll see what i can do.
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i don't know who deuce is. i want no part of her war. i don't have the energy. this was the last thing i needed recovering from surgery.
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i understand and do know some of what she went through. AZModerate who is a dear friend of mine told me. that is why i did go out of my way
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to try to reason with her. I really did. even though she was being horrible at points. i disregarded and tried to stick to the topic.
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I told her that I'm very sorry for what she was put through and that I could relate, having been badly harassed by shoq and others
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I know, I am hearing that you want off the blog - and in no way attached to the story, on any level.
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there is NO reason for her to refuse to delete my photo & all mention of me. and there's no reason for her to have these insane theories
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exactly. yes. why is that so difficult? bc she's got several insane theories in her head & she refuses to let them go.
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please try to get through to her bc this is fucking horrible. thank you very much.
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(redacted email addy was only thing in this post)
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ok, we about to get hit w/an odd winter thunderstorm, I may lose my internet any second.
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sent you the DMS and put spaces in between them to make it easier to read. it's hard to follow bc i was trying to reply to the things she
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was saying, and you'll see she was all over the place with her theories of motives and schemes and plans
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you'll see how many times I had to repeat myself. you'll see why this was fucking exhausting.
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i hope the storm isn't bad. i may need to take a nap soon. please get through to this woman if you can. please.
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there is NO fucking reason for her to rework her whole post. all she has to do is remove what all mention of me and my photo.
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OK, NOW I need screenshots. this woman is a liar. she's tweeting that i am calling my followers liars when I have repeatedly said I am NOT
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calling anyone a liar. I have repeatedly said i think it was an honest mistake or a misunderstanding. sorry but this woman is a liar &
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pathological. i need to know how to get a link to her tweets so i can report her.
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I figured out how to report her tweets and will continue to report her as long as she talks trash about me
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I'm dropping it for now since her mother died today, but she's a liar and a vile human being.
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while her mother was dying today, she was obsessed with harassing me. that's on her, not me.
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She is not the one obsessed - that post was ?6 months ago. And Looking at death in front of you does not have the comfort of rules.
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I never saw the post until yesterday. i asked her nicely to take it down. she refuses & is obsessed with conspiracy theories she has.
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I didn't follow her and had no idea her blog existed til someone told me.
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she could have avoided all of this if she had simply asked me for permission to use my photo & write about me for her post before she posted
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I would have told her I had nothing to do w CTL and that I don't want my photo on her site which she is using to try to raise money & that
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i had nothing to do w the creation of CTL and don't want to be mentioned on her inflammatory post.
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I understand that, but the timing was she was staring at death after caretaking her mom for the last several years - then you called her
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names on your TL - She did not post lies - she posted what she was told and stated such and you want no part of the entire Eileen convo
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I was happy to drop it last night, but then she came on my TL & was harassing people. that's not ok.
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I understand that- you are handling it wrong. It was not an attack on you and you turned it to being an attack on her, You need to see that.
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She did post lies. She said I called my followers liars. I told her about 10 x that I don't think anyone is lying & that it's just a mistake
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I did not turn it into an attack on her. I asked her to remove all mention of me & the photo & she refused. that's not ok.
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insisting on keeping info you know is false about someone up is not ok.
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She responded to a post sent to her that included you - I do see the picture, I have been paying attention for a long time.
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not sure i understand you. what post was sent to her that included me?
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Yes - I am not going back to the TL but as her mother was dying you stated she was irrational or something and such, some slack
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should have been cut and waiting would not have hurt.
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i didn't know her mother was dying until after she posted that she had died. she is the one who kept DMing me. and i responded.
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not sure how else I should have handled her. I'm not psychic. She was being irrational. completely irrational.
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Twitter - ppl respond much later to posts than when they were sent.
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if someone put your photo on their site where they ask for money & wrote false things about you & you asked them to take it down & they
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refused, how would you handle it?
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I was extremely patient with her for HOURS of tweets and DMs. It went on forever bc she kept insisting that I really did create CTL & that
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it was my fault that someone gave her wrong info.
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not sure if i'm understanding you. are you saying that a link to her blog was sent to me when she wrote it & that I missed it?
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bc if it was ever sent to me, i never saw it.
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It does not matter that you did not know that her mom was dying. I did. You know now. Give some space.
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I am giving space. i haven't tweeted about it since I saw the tweet that her mother died.
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I am done for the night. You are obsessing. There was no fall out on you from the post for the last ?6 months.
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it doesn't matter. I'm not okay w having my photo & false info on someone's page w/o my permission & where they're trying to raise $
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furthermore, I know the real name of @Sdzzz but I will not publicize it bc that would be harassment. She did that to EileenLeft & didn't'
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care even tho she herself was doxed & knows what a problem that is. I'm up to take pain meds every 4 hours. so i'm up and this is still
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really bothering me. you can't say her post didn't harm me. you don't know that. I was subpoenaed by TX DPS for tweets this summer bc of a
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an anti-choice DPS agent here. having my name & photo on a blog like hers does not help. I had to get a lawyer & was terrified for over aFeb 21
week. being mentioned in an inflammatory blog post like that is inherently harmful. she needs to remove all mention of me & my photoFeb 21
not doing so is a form of harassment.
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